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#41 ALL4THEKIDS

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE(FrOnT RoW JOE @ Feb 1 2007, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I am sticking up for the coach all the way...I cant help that becuase of 2 players are not going to go out because they had to sit a couple games...you guys act like Miller is picking on your kids just because...I never said you were wrong about maybe taking a look at the discipline...Im just saying these kids need to go out and see what happens...coach Miller and all involved in the program are doing an excellent job in trying to turn a piss poor baseball program into something and it makes it harder when parents are trying to control what he is doing...

those involoved start from little kids all the way through highschool are doing great...keep up the good work! I respect that coach Miller is there doing and it could have been alot worse...for instance Greg Scherer!! Miller isnt there for just his son

COACH MILLER IS AN EXCELLENT COACH. I DON'T BELIEVE HE IS COACHING JUST BECAUSE HIS SON IS ON THE TEAM. THE KIDS HAVE TO WANT TO PLAY JUST AS BAD. YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW ON THE TEAM FROM LAST YEAR THAT HAS THE HEART FOR THE GAME. BUT, ONLY A FEW CAN'T MAKE A TEAM, ALL THE KIDS HAVE TO WANT TO BE THERE. YOU CAN'T COACH IF THE KIDS ARE JUST THERE TO BE THERE.
AS FOR THE DISCIPLINE, WELL, IT DOES HAVE TO BE FAIR AND CONSISTENT, NO MATTER WHAT!! I FEEL THAT THIS YEAR WILL BE A TURN AROUND FOR CHS. BUT, THAT IS ONLY MY OPINION.

Edited by ALL4THEKIDS, 01 February 2007 - 08:05 PM.

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#42 FrOnT RoW JOE

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 08:12 PM

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#43 Dr. Hibbert

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:29 PM

Joe, you are right about the amount of time Coach is spending down at the diamond, but...my only concern ( I know, I am beating a dead horse ), is the discipline thing. Besides the points I have already mentioned, last season we had a senior member on the team who MISSED ( I call it blowin' the team off) a game to work BACKSTAGE CREW on the school play - but the very next night he blew off the backstage crew to play in a meaningless exibition basketball game. Now, if I am trying to build the program I am gonna be smokin' hot about that! This kid did not serve any suspesnsion for "dissing" his TEAM for backstage crew or to play basketball.

Additionally, not playing your starters so a senior can "earn" his Letter (seniors automatically receive letters) is not how I define trying to build the program. This particular senior NEVER gave the baseball program a minute of his time during the summer, yet the starters who had to sit so he could "earn" his Letter suffered. I might add that that the starters who had to sit, gave every summer to the program from "minor league" all the way up to ACME.

Finally, who is trying to dictate what Coach is doing? I know I have never offered any insight or opinion because it is not my job to do so.

Now, in the words of Forrest Gump: "That's all I gotta say about that"...

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#44 FrOnT RoW JOE

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:38 PM

ok, so we are going to agree to disagree kinda...because I never said you were completely wrong...I know who you are and I have alot of great respect for you...I also know where you are coming from when you say that kid missed for play practice and didnt get punished....I would NOT allow that to happen by any means....I dont care if your the damn president it wouldnt happen or yes you will find your self on the bench next to me...the basketball thing...thats something I wouldnt like either and it should NEVER happen either...you are a coach you know what it is like to be getting called out by parents...not meaning you....its just really hard to build a baseball program when you have such great success at basketball and kids dont want to go out...on the other hand I dont care if you are a Sr. you should have to earn your letter not have it given to you but thats not in my hands so I dont want to go there...PEACE!

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#45 Dr. Hibbert

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 05:22 PM

I'll drink to that Joe!

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 10:44 PM

QUOTE(Dr. Hibbert @ Feb 2 2007, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Joe, you are right about the amount of time Coach is spending down at the diamond, but...my only concern ( I know, I am beating a dead horse ), is the discipline thing. Besides the points I have already mentioned, last season we had a senior member on the team who MISSED ( I call it blowin' the team off) a game to work BACKSTAGE CREW on the school play - but the very next night he blew off the backstage crew to play in a meaningless exibition basketball game. Now, if I am trying to build the program I am gonna be smokin' hot about that! This kid did not serve any suspesnsion for "dissing" his TEAM for backstage crew or to play basketball.

Additionally, not playing your starters so a senior can "earn" his Letter (seniors automatically receive letters) is not how I define trying to build the program. This particular senior NEVER gave the baseball program a minute of his time during the summer, yet the starters who had to sit so he could "earn" his Letter suffered. I might add that that the starters who had to sit, gave every summer to the program from "minor league" all the way up to ACME.

Finally, who is trying to dictate what Coach is doing? I know I have never offered any insight or opinion because it is not my job to do so.

Now, in the words of Forrest Gump: "That's all I gotta say about that"...

Peace

OK. Doctor, Lets set the record straight about your blatant lies.
1. The student did not schedule the play (the play, not play practice) and baseball game for the same night. A committment was made to both programs, he had to make a choice. Sorry it didn't fit into your way of thinking.
2. The player DID serve a game suspension though. Lie 1.
3. The meaningless basketball game was the PCL Allstar game. You failed to mention what it was. Senior year, nice honor, would you pass it up? would your son?
4. Never gave the baseball program a minute during the summer? He played ACME. Lie 2 Ya better plan on going to confession.
5. Your childish immature "dissing" of a kid because yours didn't play enough has now been exposed.
6. If your not man enough to issue a personal apology to this kid, at least post one online from the safety of your computer.

Edited by highschoolsports, 02 February 2007 - 10:56 PM.

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#47 Dr. Hibbert

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 12:11 AM

Ok High School Sports, here is the deal: The senior blew off the baseball team to work backstage then preceded to blow off backstage crew for an exibition basketball game - thus placing his commitment to baseball third on his priority list. The "suspension" he served was the nightcap of a double header when all the regular starters were set down to give the non-starters an opportunity to play. Alleged lie number 1 now officially debunked.

Alleged lie number two: The senior who got playing time to "earn" his Letter is NOT the same person who worked backstage & played a basketball game. This particular senior NEVER gave the summer program a minute of his time. Lie number 2 is now officially debunked.

And, for the record, I never dissed the kid for going to work backstage crew instead of playing in a game. Another bit of misinformation on your part.

{ 5. Your childish immature "dissing" of a kid because yours didn't play enough has now been exposed. } For the record my kid was a starter; yet another bit of disinformation on your part.

So, I will not apologize; I'm sorry but that's just the way I am!!

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 08:25 AM

QUOTE(Dr. Hibbert @ Feb 3 2007, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ok High School Sports, here is the deal: The senior blew off the baseball team to work backstage then preceded to blow off backstage crew for an exibition basketball game - thus placing his commitment to baseball third on his priority list. The "suspension" he served was the nightcap of a double header when all the regular starters were set down to give the non-starters an opportunity to play. Alleged lie number 1 now officially debunked.

Alleged lie number two: The senior who got playing time to "earn" his Letter is NOT the same person who worked backstage & played a basketball game. This particular senior NEVER gave the summer program a minute of his time. Lie number 2 is now officially debunked.

And, for the record, I never dissed the kid for going to work backstage crew instead of playing in a game. Another bit of misinformation on your part.

So, I will not apologize; I'm sorry but that's just the way I am!!

Nope, not good enough. Suspension was NOT the second game of a doubleheader. It was at the McComb game. Did you make the drive? Two players sat out that game, the other for not running out a pop up. Oh, I seem to remember you posting about that as well. Get your facts straight. So, we're you lying, or was this misinformation on your part?

This kid had three activities in two days. None of which he scheduled. Decisions had to be made. Backstage manager for a play that lasts two days. Basketball Allstar game that is once in a lifetime. Baseball game. Had to make a choice. Whether you, I, or anyone else agrees, he made his decision. And he DID serve a suspension for it that was NOT part of a doubleheader.

As for lie #2, maybe not the same kid, but whats your purpose? Why use this forum to belittle a kids actions to make your point about the coach/program?

You did diss quite a few kids in your posts. If its received as dissing, it is dissing. If you don't think so, well, all I can say is I'm sorry for you. You feel it necessary to diss kids to make your points. Remember, ALL KIDS, even you, me, your kids and mine make decisions that we won't agree with. Just keep them out of the public forum while your shielded by your computer and screen moniker.

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#49 Dr. Hibbert

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:44 PM

High School, MY BAD! You are right, I forgot about the McComb game - see I can admit when I make a mistake

I guess the thing that threw me is that the suspensions were not served directly after the incidents in question; from what I hear Coach was prodded into making those decisions {ALERT- that last part is heresay so don't dog me too hard!}

The thing about backstage crew for the play is that no basketball player would miss a game for Coach Homier for that reason.

As far as belittling or "dissing" kids - I don't see anywhere that I dissed or belittled anyone. In fact kids are some of my favorite people, being that I am so immature and all!!

This post went way off topic & I helped escalate it. I was just responding to why some kids are not playing this year. It has nothing to do with Coach's knowledge of the game there is no doubt he knows the game well ( he could still PLAY the game for that matter. It did have everything to do with the inconsistent discipline - nothing more & nothing less.

High School, we should get together & talk baseball sometime. Peace

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#50 FrOnT RoW JOE

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:52 PM

what about me Doc?? by the way you left to early the other night after the game...I was going to talk to ya...anyways I would love to chat with yea doc anytime...you a great man with knowledge of the game....we can even debate over coach Miller!! but I will always say I am right!! lol PEACE FOR ALL THE PIRATE FANS ON THIS TOPIC!!

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#51 Dr. Hibbert

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:58 PM

Joe, it isn't a "knowledge" thing with Coach - he knows the game like the back of his hand. Heck, he is probablly better than a large portion of kids playing the game, so that was never an issue. Nor was it the amount of time he spends at the ball field; his wife must feel like a widow at times! But......some of the past basketball players could, and did, get away with things that others couldn't. Peace my little buddy!

By the way send best wishes to Scott!

Edited by Dr. Hibbert, 03 February 2007 - 04:59 PM.

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#52 FrOnT RoW JOE

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:10 PM

thanks...I am sure he appreciates it

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 07:23 PM

WE ALL SHOULD JUST BE GLAD THAT WE HAVE COACHES THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE TIME OUT OF THEIR FAMILY LIVES TO SPEND IT WITH ALL OF OUR KIDS. EVERY KID NEEDS A CHANCE, WHETHER THEY ARE GOOD AT THE SPORT OR BAD AT THE SPORT. THAT IS WHY THERE ARE COACHES, TO HELP OUR KIDS LEARN THE DIFFERENT SPORTS. ALL THAT THE KIDS WANT IS SOME RECOGNITION AND THE TIME TO SHINE. THE ONLY WAY THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO GET ANY BETTER IS TO HAVE LOTS OF PRACTICE AND PLAY TIME. THE ONLY WAY TO GET BETTER IS TO PRACTICE AND PLAY AND THEN PLAY EVEN HARDER! WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT BASEBALL PLAYERS THAT ARE JUST WAITING FOR THEIR TIME TO SHINE. THE TIME WILL COME AND LOOK OUT FANS!!

NOT EVERY SPORT IS GIVEN THE SAME RECOGNITION. ALL SPORTS NEED TO BE TREATED THE SAME, FROM BASEBALL, BASKETBALL, SOCCER, TRACK, CHEERLEADING, AND ALL THE OTHERS. THE FANS ARE WHAT NEED THE HELP! SORRY IF I SOUND BITTER, BUT THE FANS ARE WHO THE KIDS LOOK UP TOO. THE FANS NEED TO SUPPORT THE KIDS, AND YES THE FANS ARE THE PARENTS TOO. I GO TO BASKETBALL GAMES AND SEE FANS SIT FOR THE JV AND STAND AND CHEER FOR THE VARSITY. SHOULDN'T ALL FANS STAND AND CHEER FOR EVERYTHING? ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CHEERLEADERS ARE TRYING TO GET THE FANS GOING. DON'T YOU THINK THAT THE KIDS SEE THAT TOO? EVERY ACTION, FACIAL EXPRESSION, COMMENTS, AND SO ON. THE SAME GOES FOR THE FANS, THE FANS SEE AND HEAR WHAT THE COACHES DO TOO. BUT, WE ALL NEED TO BE THERE FOR THE KIDS AND SUPPORT THEM.

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 10:14 AM

As someone who has absolutely no horse in this race at all...a kid who blows off a varsity game for a play is indicative of baseball's place in his pecking order.

There's nothing inherently "wrong" with this happening. It sounds like he paid the price with sitting out a couple of games. However, you can't build a program around kids with that attitude. I'm not criticizing the kid because he has a right to choose one over the other.

Until that kind of stuff ends, however, baseball is never going to be at the level it should be in the county.

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 04:16 PM

Gotta agree with you there bbdad. Baseball just doesn't get it done in Putnam county: Kalida the exception. I can't imagine skipping a Varsity baseball game for either backstage crew or a basketball game. I guess that is why the program in C-Town is so bad.

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Posted 11 February 2007 - 09:43 PM

Well some kids that play baseball dont take it serious enough to get any better! There are only a hand-full of kids that want to play badly! On the other hand the coaches are working there buts off to give them a nice field to play on!

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 07:10 PM

can we get back to PCL baseball and not talk about the continental soap opera.
These are my top five teams in order
1.Kalida
2. Jennings
3. Grove
4. MC
5.Leipsic

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#58 FrOnT RoW JOE

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 08:09 PM

game, you are a soap opera!

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 08:23 AM

QUOTE(game225 @ Feb 22 2007, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

can we get back to PCL baseball and not talk about the continental soap opera.
These are my top five teams in order
1.Kalida
2. Jennings
3. Grove
4. MC
5.Leipsic

I guess I would have those 5 teams listed as well, but,not that order.
for the record I'm not throwing any hate towards c-town but, geeesh!!

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 04:49 PM

1 Kalida - hard to go against Guisinger & co. commitment
2 MC - nice bunch of ballplayers
3 Ft Jennings - could be #2
4 Ottoville - youth, but some good players

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