Michigan Defeats Florida

Good win for the Big Ten........

We need OSU to step up to clear the hate the media has toward the conference ...........

I remember a few years back a certain running back was said to be too small and too slow. His name? Barry Sanders. Now I am in NO WAY equating Mike Hart with Barry Sanders...Barry was a rare talent. But their size is comparable. I don't think Hart will be a star in the NFL but he will be a solid back.

If Hart uses his mouth in the NFL as much as he did in the college game he won`t last long..... Some linebacker will behead him.

Hart - a 1st round pick in last years draft.News to me and my fellow UM fans.
Can you provide a link or is this just more anti-UM gossip??

Haven't people learned to stop doubting me yet? Last years draft class at RB was pretty weak. AP and Marshawn Lynch (both underclassmen last year) went in the 1st Round, and I think that was it. And a lot of what I remember had him ranked above Lynch. I know I heard from many places that he'd likely be mid 1st to mid 2nd round, but once he didn't submit his name for a draft grade, the talk of him pretty much stopped. ESPN, for instance.

I haven't been able to find anything solid for you, but here are a few things that talked about draft positioning at the beginning of the season and some other stuff, talking about the likelihood of his being a late 1st round pick or there abouts.

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2008_nfl_draft/mike_hart.htm

http://thefootballexpert.com/2008nflmockdraftrose.html

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/...raftyear%3D2008

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

The 1st link was from prior to the season and the 2nd link is a recent mock draft.

We're splitting hairs when it comes to Hart's NFL prospectus and frankly I don't really care if or when he goes. The three UM guys with NFL potential on this year's team will and have been Long, Manningham and Henne in that order. I'd go so far as to say should Adrian Arrington declare he would be selected ahead of Hart.

Course as everyone knows, the NFL grades any and all Ohio St and Michigan draft entries based solely on their performance in the Michigan - Ohio St game.

I was talking about the 2007 Draft...no mention of 2008 in my talk of how he'd have been picked higher in 2007 than he will in 2008. Hart was said to be borderline first round pick and likely would have been the 2nd RB chosen in 2007. I could care less where he goes in the draft. He could get drafted by the Monteal Alouettes for all I care. I was just stating his draft stock LAST season is higher than it appears likely to be this draft.

I'm no GM but I never would have considered taking Mike Hart as the 2nd rb in the draft. I've never seen him as having much upside in terms of the NFL.

Maybe you frequent different sites or read different magazines than I do or something but I don't recall any buzz from the NFL scouts about him. Probably just Buck fans doing what Buck fans do. Build up any and all Ohio St players to the point of declaring them Gods at their position. And in the same breath trash any and all Michigan players, coaches, recruits, equipment managers etc until after an OSU victory over them, at which point those same players are vaulted to superstud status for a few months until the draft where they are suddenly trashed as being pathetic losers.

I don't know where you stand in that current sequence of events.

Gee. I guess the fact that I haven't mentioned an Ohio State player leads you to believe that I am here to build up Ohio State players? I mean gosh oh golly gee, Cletus, where did that dissertation on human crap come from? I mean, its no big secret here at the RC that you read what Vic has to say, laugh at how he came up with such mindless, doltish crap, and then dismiss it as such human excrement and just enjoy the fact that everyone knows Vic is full of it and has no clue. I guess this is just another example? Go back and put some literacy skills to use. Hope you possess such capabilities. I mean c'mon, I repeat some of what I read and hear, what I have provided for you to read and then you do what...stop reading, shut off brain impulses and decide to jump me for what you wanted to jump someone for, yet clearly have no purpose? Ooh...aren't we just a mighty little dust mite tonight, Mr. Vic! Perhaps you'll be mighty enough to make someone sneeze later. Yippee!

I stated quite clearly that 2007 was a down year in the draft for RBs. The fact that so few were taken in the first round only goes to prove that fact. I have provided you several preseason evaluations and predictions to the 2008 draft stating that Hart should be a 1st Rd pick in the 2008 draft. I guess you stopped reading once you realized you were wrong AGAIN? Hey, I wouldn't pick him in the first round either. Jake Long, yes, Hart, no.

Hell, I picked Ohio State to LOSE the National Championship game this season and I also picked them to lose last season. I am an Ohio State fan, yes, but I am also a realist who puts things into an intelligent perspective and puts together the beautiful mind of work that is available for neuro-assembly.

Come back to Earth, Vic. Or leave those of us that are firmly planted on it alone. Either way, catch a clue. The masses will greatly appreciate it.

LOL....

I'm sure you lost most of the posters on the RC with that.

Ha...Well, I am always willing and able to provide educational opportunities for RC posters

That 2nd statement proves NOTHING as to who teams will select. If anything it says they'll wait and grab them later in the draft and fill needs with quality early.

I hope everyone does themselves a favor and goes to the link this cat provided us. I don't think it needs any explanation. My guess is it was written by a 7th grader. His "mock draft" is a joke at best.
http://thefootballexpert.com/2008nflmockdraftrose.html

Buy a good draft magazine AFTER the combine and actually sit down and watch the damn thing for two days when it comes around in April.

Edited by Victorian, 04 January 2008 - 01:22 PM.

I'll post this AGAIN for those out there who failed to catch it the 1st time.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/...raftyear%3D2008

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

The 1st link was from prior to the season and the 2nd link is a recent mock draft.

Still good at avoiding the point of the issue that you brought up, then tried to run from when you realized you screwed up, huh? So you read back and say "Crap, he's not building up Ohio State players. How do I save face for once again being ridiculed and proven an idiot on the RC? How about I just try to change the issue I was arguing over AGAIN and hope no one notices?" Or maybe you just thought that instead of said it? Yeah, it would look a little odd if you were alone and saying that to yourself. But, hey, at least if you WERE thinking it to yourself, it proves you can think. If only you could use that thinking process in a more productive manner, huh?

And of course nobody knows who will select who. That's why we're talking about draft predictions/mock drafts. I mean, c'mon, you should surely be able to put that together, right? Yes, and please do click the link. Notice the date...May of 2007...right after the 2007 draft...looking ahead to 2008. Once again, back to the point that Hart was highly regarded at the end of the 2006 season. Looking at current mock drafts, not as highly regarded. WHICH WAS THE POINT ALL ALONG!!! Man, this sounds like a broken record, doesn't it? But, hell, I guess it has to if you can't commit to reading what has been written on the board in the first place.

Once again, why would I need to buy a draft magazine AFTER the combine? I mean, as was the point so clearly stated (and clearly ignored by you) that Hart was regarded much higher LAST YEAR than THIS YEAR without any use of a combine! I mean, hell, he's not going to be workingout at the combine as a Junior if he isn't in the draft, so what would I need a draft magazine for to compare his status for last year's draft as it is shaking out to be for this year's draft?

You make this too easy. What else ya' got, tater tot

Oh, and if you would...put some thought into your responses next time. I get paid to be a jerk and belittle idiots who think they have a clue. As of right now I would probably have to refund some money to the client because I haven't had to try all that hard to blow your case out of the water.

The first link didn't work.

As to the 2nd link...Have you yet to realize that I am talking about his status from LAST YEAR for the draft being higher than it appears it will be for THIS YEAR? What would a link to a 2008 Mock Draft have to do with helping you prove your point? It sure helps me prove mine that his stock has fallen.

Care for a mulligan?

Hart is and never was considered a 1st rounder. End of story.

If you think NFL scouts pay that much attention to college football, that's your prerogative.

Edited by Victorian, 04 January 2008 - 02:29 PM.

You make this too easy. What else ya' got, tater tot

^^^^I'm sorry, but that's just too damn funny!

My apologies for utilizing capabilities to show otherwise according to varying sources.

You're the one with egg on your face, not me. Maybe everyone will take an honest look at the garbage you linked us to. ******in joke.

http://www.thefootballexpert.com/mockdraftdatabase.html

Submit a mock draft at Michael@thefootballexpert.com

Edited by Victorian, 04 January 2008 - 07:25 PM.